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Like most parents who have, against all odds, preserved a lively and still evolving passion for good books, I find myself, each September, increasingly appalled by the dismal lists of texts that my sons are doomed to waste a school year reading. What I get as compensation is a measure of insight into why our society has come to admire Montel Williams and Ricki Lake so much more than Dante and Homer. Given the dreariness with which literature is taught in many American classrooms, it seems miraculous that any sentient teenager would view reading as a source of pleasure. Traditionally, the love of reading has been born and nurtured in high school English class--the last time many students will find themselves in a roomful of people who have all read the same text and are, in theory, prepared to discuss it. High school--even more than college--is where literary tastes and allegiances are formed; what we read in adolescence is imprinted on our brains as the dreamy notions of childhood crystallize into hard data.


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The intense loyalty adults harbor for books first encountered in youth is one probable reason for the otherwise baffling longevity of vintage mediocre novels, books that teachers themselves have read in adolescence; it is also the most plausible explanation for the peculiar [1998] Modern Library list of the "100 Best Novels of the 20th Century," a roster dominated by robust survivors from the tenth-grade syllabus. Darkness at Noon, Lord of the Flies, Brace New World, and The Studs Lonigan Trilogyall speak, in various ways, to the vestigial teenage psyches of men of a certain age. The parallel list drawn up by students (younger, more of them female) in the Radcliffe Publishing Course reflects the equally romantic and tack tastes (Gone with the Wind, The Fountainhead) of a later generation of adolescent girls.


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Given the fact that these early encounters with literature leave such indelible impressions, it would seem double important to make sure that high school students are actually reading literature. Yet every opportunity to instill adolescents with a lifelong affinity for narrative, for the ways in which the vision of an artist can percolate through an idiosyncratic use of language, and for the supple gymnastics of a mind that exercises the mind of the reader is being squandered on regimenns of trash and semi-trash, taught for reasons that have nothing to do with how well a book is written. In facet less and less attention is being paid to what has been written, let alone how; it's becoming a rarity for a teacher to suggest that a book might be a work of art composed of words and sentences, or that the choice of these words and sentences can inform and delight us. We hear that more books are being bought and sold than ever before, yet no one, as far as I know, is arguing that we are producing and becoming a nation a avid readers of serious literature.


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Much has been made of the lemminglike fervor with which our universities have rushed to sacrifice complexity for diversity; for decades now, critics have decried our plummeting scholastic standards and mourned the death of cultural literacy without having done one appreciable thing to raise the educational bar or revivie our moribund culture. Meanwhile, scant notice has been paid, except by exasperated parents, to the missed opportunities and misinformation that form the true curriculum of so many high school English classes.


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My own two sons, now twenty-one and seventeen, have read ( in public and private schools) Shakespeare, Hawthorne, and Melville. But they've also slogged repeatedly through the manipulative melodrams of Alice Walker and Maya Angelou, thorough sentimental, middlebrow favorites (To Kill a Mockingbird and A Separate Peace),   the weaker novels of John Steinback, the fantasies of Ray Bradbury. My older son spent the first several weeks of sophomore English discussing the class's  summer assignment, Ordinary People, a weeper and former bestseller by Judith Guest about a "dysfunction" family recovering from a teenage son's suicide attempt.


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Neither has heard a teacher suggest that he read Kafka, though one might suppose that teenagers might enjoy the transformative science-fiction aspects of The Metamorphosis, a story about a young man so alienated from his "dysfunctional" family that he turns- embarrassingly for them- into a giant beetle. No instructor has ever asked my sons to read Alice Munro, who writes so lucidly and beautifully about the hypersensitivity that makes adolescence a hell.


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In the hope of finding out that my children and my friends' children were exceptionally unfortunate, I recently collected eighty or so reading lists from high schools throughout the country. Because of how overworked teachers are, how hard to reach during the school day, as well as the odd, paranoid defensiveness that pervades so many schools, obtaining these documents seemed to require more time and dogged perseverance than obtaining one's FBI surveillance files- and what I came away with may not be a scientifically accurate survey. Such surveys have been done by the National Council of Teachers Of English (published in the 1993 NCTE research report, Literature in the Secondary Schools), with results that both underline and fail to reflect what I found.


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What emerges from these photocopied pages, distributed in public, private, and Catholic school as well as in military academies, in Manhattan and Denver, in rural Oregon and urban Missouri, is a numbing sameness, unaffected by geography, region, or community size. Nearly every list contains at least one of Shakespeare's plays. Indeed, in the NCTE report, Shakespeare (followed closely by John Steinbeck) tops the rosters of "Ten Most Frequently Required Authors of Book Length Works, Graders 9-12."


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Yet in other genres - fiction and memoir- the news is far more upsetting. On the lists sampled, Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird and Maya Angelou's I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings are among the titles that appear most often, a grisly fact that in itself should inspire us to examine that works that dominate our children's literary education.

First published in 1970, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings is what we have since learned to recognized as a "survivor" memoir, a first-person narrative of victimization and recovery. Angelou transports us to her childhood in segregated Arkansas, where she was raised by her grandmother and was mostly content despite the unpleasantness of her white neighbors, until, after a move to St.Louis, eight-year-old Maya was raped by her mother's boyfriend.


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One can see why this memoir might appeal to the lazy or uninspired teacher, who can conduct the class as if the students were the studio audience for Angelou's quest appearance on Oprah. The author's frequently vented distrust of white society might rouse even the most sluggish or understandably disaffected ninth-graders to join the discussion of racism; her victory over poverty and abuse can be used to address what on fan, in a customer book review on Amazon.com, celebrated as "transcending that pain, drawing from it deeper levels of meaning about being truly human and alive." Many chapters end with sententious epigrams virtually begging to serve as texts for sophomoric rumination on such questions as: What does Angelou mean when she writes, "If growing up is painful for the Southern Black girl, being aware of her displacement is rust on the razor that threatens the throat"?


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But much more terrifying than the prospect of Angelou's pieties being dissected for their deeper meaning is the notion of her language being used as a model of "poetic" prose style. Many of the terrible mysteries that confront teachers of college freshman composition can be solved simply by looking at Angelou's writing. Who told students to combine a dozen mixed metaphors in one paragraph? Consider a typical passage from Anglou's opaque prose: "Weekdays revolved on a sameness wheel. They turned into themselves so steadily and inevitably that each seemed to be the original of yesterday's rough draft. Saturdays, however, always broke the mold and dated to be different." Where do students learn to write stale, inaccurate similes? "The man's dead words fell like bricks around the auditorium and too many settled in my belly." Who seriously believes that murky, turgid , convoluted language of this sort constitutes good writing? "Youth and social approval allied themselves with me and we trammeled memories of slights and insults. The winds of our swift passage remodeled my features. Lost tears were pounded to mud and then to dust. Years of withdrawal were brushed a side and left behind, as hanging ropes of parasitic moss."


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To hold up this book as a paradigm of memoir of thought - of literature - is akin to inviting doctors convicted of malpractice to instruct our medical students. if we want to use Angelou's work to educate our kids, let's invite them to parse her language, sentence by sentence; as them precisely what it means and why one would bother obscuring ideas that could be expressed so much more simply and felicitously .  

Narrated affably enough by a nine-year-old girl named Scout, To Kill a Mockingbird is the perennially  beloved and treacly account of growing up in a small Southern town during the Depression. Its hero is Scout's father, the saintly Atticus Finch, a lawyer who represents everything we cherish about justice and democracy and the American Way, and who defends a black man falsely accused of rape by a poor white woman. The novel has a shadow hero too, the descriptively named Boo Radley, a gooney recluse who becomes the occasion for yet another lesson in tolerance and compassion. 


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Such summary reduces the cook, but not by all that much. To read the novel is, for most, and exercise in wish-fulfillment and self-congratulate, a chance to consider thorny issues of race and prejudice from a safe distance and with the comfortable certainty that the reader would never harbor the racist attitudes espoused by the lowlifes in the novel. We (the readers) are Scout, her childhood is our childhood, and Atticus Finch is our brave, infinitely patient American Daddy. And that creepy big guy living alone in the scary house turns out to have been watching over us with protective benevolent attention.


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Maya Angelou and Harper Lee are not the only authors on the lists. The other most popular books are The Great Gatsby, The Scarlet Letter, The adventures of Huckleberry Finn, and The Cather in the Rye. John Steinbeck (The Pearl, Of Mice and Men, The Red Pony, The Grapes of Wrath) and Toni Morrison (Song of Solomon, Sula, The Bluest Eye, Beloved) are the writers - after Shakespeare-represented by the larges numbers of titles. Also widely studied are novels of more dubious literary merit: John Knowles's A Separate Peace, William Golding's Lord of the Flies, Elie Wiesel's Night, and Rays Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, Dandelion Wine, The October Country, and Something Wicked This Way Comes. Trailing behind these favorites, Orwell ( Nineteen Eighty-Four and Animal Farm) is still being read, as are the Brontes ( Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre).


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How astonishing then that students exposed to such a wide array of masterpieces and competent middlebrow entertainments are not mobbing their libraries and bookstores, demanding heady diets of serious or semi-serious fiction! And how puzzling that I should so often find myself teaching bright, eager college undergraduate and graduate students, would-be writers handicapped not merely by how little literature they have read but by their utter inability to read it; many are nearly incapable of doing the close line-by-line reading necessary to disclose the most basic information in a story by Henry James or a seemingly more straightforward one by Katherine Mansfield of Paul Bowles.

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Amy C. on paragraph 1:

I would just like to point out that I’m already in disagreement with the author because I have never heard of Williams or Lake, but I do know Dante and Homer.

October 25, 2007 3:12 pm
Amy C. on paragraph 7:

By likening obtaining reading lists from schools to surveillance files from the FBI the author expresses how truely difficult it was. The author might also be implying that school’s have become like a government in itself, controling what students read all across the nation without the consent of outsiders.

October 25, 2007 3:24 pm
Amy C. on paragraph 8:

The anaphora of the word ‘in’ communicates the widespread sameness of books read by high school students across the country. The use of the word ‘photocopied’ seems to hint that students aren’t even getting real, authentic literature, but are being cheated into fake, ‘photocopied pages’.

October 25, 2007 3:37 pm
Kendra K. on paragraph 1:

I agree with the author on this passage. Our society is not forcing us, the teenagers, to read “good literature.” We are more interested in “watching others’ drama” than we are thinking.

October 25, 2007 3:42 pm
Kendra K. on whole page :

I am not happy with this paragraph. I am not a HUGE fan of Maya Angelou but I actually liked reading “I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings” and I don’t really like that she puts her works down.

October 25, 2007 4:41 pm
Jon-Michael P. on paragraph 1:

I disagree with the author. As Amy previously mentioned, I am clueless as to who Williams and Lake are. However, I instantly recognize the names Dante and Homer, two literary geniuses whose works have transcended all time barriers. We are still reading and discussing their works to this day.

October 28, 2007 11:34 am
Jon-Michael P. on paragraph 12:

The author uses a rhetorical question–”Who seriously believes that murky, turgid, convoluted language of this sort constitutes good writing?”–to criticize Angelou’s literary work. She questions anyone who believes that Angelou’s work “constitutes good writing.” By doing this, she attemps to gain support of her position.

October 28, 2007 11:50 am
Clare B on paragraph 1:

As Amy and Jon-Michael pointed also pointed out, I am not fimiliar with Lake or Williams. I’ve read works of Homer, whose writings base back to about 8th century B.C. and are still being studied in classrooms today, and Dante, who wrote The Divine Comedy- one of the greatest Italian works ever written.

October 28, 2007 2:17 pm
Clare B on paragraph 7:

I agree with Amy. The comparison of the reading lists to FBI surveilliance files shows how difficult it was to obtain the lists from the teachers. This is a hyperbole.

October 28, 2007 2:29 pm
Clare B on paragraph 8:

If culturally different schools from all across the country are reading the same books, then I would imagine that those books are well written. I doubt that these teachers would just happen to pick the same inadequate books. The anaphora of “in” parallels to the repetitiveness of the books lists the author found.

October 28, 2007 2:40 pm
Clare B on paragraph 9:

If these books are so “upsetting” then why did “To Kill a Mockingbird” win the Pulitzer prize- the higest national honor of literary works?

October 28, 2007 2:45 pm
Clare B on paragraph 12:

I agree with you Jon-Michael on the author’s use of a rhetorical question, but it also seems the she is showing her inability to comprehend works of literature other than what she thinks is standard. Because both of these books (”To Kill a Mockingbird” and “I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings”) are based in the South, there is a lot of Southern dialect in the conversations between the characters. This dialect helps create the setting of the story though it might be hard for Prose, the New York author of this book, to understand.

October 28, 2007 2:54 pm
Clare B on paragraph 15:

In this paragraph the author compares “To Kill a Mockingbird” with her life and the life of the readers of this passage.

October 28, 2007 2:58 pm
Jon-Michael P. on paragraph 16:

I can say from personal experience that works of Shakespeare and Fitzgerald are genius literary compositions. As our summer assignment proved, “The Great Gatsby” is filled with allusions, imagery, and clever diction. We can learn to implement such literary devices into our own text by reading well-written works. I’ve heard the following phrase: “If Shakespeare would have stated his thoughts so bluntly, we probably wouldn’t be talking about them some 500 years later.” The works mentioned are so common because they are such great works.

October 28, 2007 7:15 pm
Jon-Michael P. on paragraph 11:

The author’s statement concerning the appeal of “I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings” is ludicrous. It seems that the way a work of literature is taught is more important that the actual work of literature. A superb English teacher could teacher her students great literary techniques using even a mediocre novel. The content of a book isn’t nearly as important as the actual information that is taught relating to the book. Why does the author create such an uproar about the actual books that her sons were forced to read? Perhaps her sons’ teachers and their methods were at fault, not the actual works of literature.

October 28, 2007 7:38 pm
Jon-Michael P. on whole page :

It is no coincidence that a student in Iowa is reading the same book as a student in Florida. Shakespeare isn’t the author of their books because he created stupid plays about a murdered Roman emperor. The same books are required reads because students can learn a great deal of information by reading them. Clare made an interesting point concerning the repetition of “in.” The author restates the word “in” to point out the common required reads acorss the US.

October 28, 2007 7:48 pm
Amberly on paragraph 1:

When English teachers introduce the works of Dante and Homer, students are instantly turned off. Even though these are literary classics, students are not excited about reading such challenging texts. Many teenagers have no problem with reading what they want to read, but when forced to study the works of Dante and Homer, they simply don’t. Maybe why some English teachers have removed those works from the classroom is because they want to excite their students about reading rather than intimidating them.

October 29, 2007 12:28 pm
Amberly on paragraph 9:

Good point, Clare. I am confused about what this author sees as good literature. What requirements must a book meet to become something worth of studying?

October 29, 2007 12:36 pm
Amberly on paragraph 11:

To look at this from another perspective, what if an English teacher did require her students to read great works of literature, but failed to measure up in explaining the literary techniques used throughout the book? Nothing would be learned from this either. Perhaps English teachers are only doing what they know to do.

October 29, 2007 12:46 pm
Amberly on paragraph 17:

By the author stating that she teaches college undergraduate and graduate students appeals to ethos. If she would have stated this in the beginning of her writting, I might have given her a little more credit for her argument as I read it.

October 29, 2007 12:54 pm
Amberly on paragraph 6:

Nor have I ever heard of Kafka or Alice Munro. If these works are so “[lucid] and [beautiful],” then why in my schooling have I never heard of these? However, I have heard of Homer, Dante, Angelou, and Lee that she thinks so poorly of. I do not understand this woman.

October 29, 2007 1:00 pm
Shea W. on paragraph 1:

I would have to disagree with the author as well. I have never heard of Williams or Lake, but I do know some what of Dante and Homer. Also, Amberly makes a very good point on this subject. Many teenagers are only going to read what they want to read. They want to take pleasure in reading a novel, rather than being miserable throughout the assignment.

October 29, 2007 3:01 pm
Shea W. on paragraph 9:

I agree with Amberly and Clare. What does this author think good literature is? To Kill a Mocking Bird is one of my preferred books, and I know I’m not the only teenager who is fond of it. I would definitely rather read it yet again, over any novel the author has spoken of.

October 29, 2007 3:12 pm
Shea W. on paragraph 11:

Good point, Amberly. Maybe it is not the works of literature, maybe it is the teacher. I’m not saying that the teacher is substandard to other teachers, but perhaps she does not know how to teach and explain well the literary techniques needed to analyze other novels.

October 29, 2007 3:19 pm
Shea W. on paragraph 12:

The fact that the author is from New York is possibly why she is finding it hard to analyze these works of literature. Because both novels are set in the South, maybe she does not understand the characters’ dialect. Good point, Clare.

October 29, 2007 3:24 pm
Jon-Michael P. on paragraph 1:

Amberly and Shea: Great point! As a student, I can attest to the fact that, if I don’t get to pick out the book I want to read, I’m probably not going to enjoy it [as well as I would if I did get to pick out the book]. While I don’t agree with the author’s opinion of literary greats (Homer, Shakespeare, etc.), I do agree that teachers are forced to modify their “required reading lists” to shut-up their whinny juvenile English students.

October 29, 2007 3:29 pm
Shea W. on paragraph 16:

In the past, I enjoyed reading “The Great Gatsby”, “The Scarlet Letter” and “The Adventures of Huckleberry Fin”. Like Puffy said, we can only learn from reading works of literature like these. We will learn to use the literary techniques we gather through these books and implement them in our on writings.

October 29, 2007 3:33 pm
Drew on paragraph 3:

I agree with the author’s point that what we read in this (high school) stage of our life influences the way we percieve literature for the rest of our lives, but I disagree that these impressions are unerasable or beyond correction. I think that the way these pieces of literature affect us are only as influential as the ones that we read later in life, and they only affect our views as much as we allow.

October 29, 2007 4:23 pm
Jon-Michael P. on paragraph 9:

I echo Shea’s response. The author’s extremely critical analysis has invalidated many great literary masterpieces. If these examples aren’t “good literature” in her eyes, I’d sure like to know what is!

October 29, 2007 4:56 pm
Elizabeth C. :

Good point JM! I am also confused with the author’s opinion of “good literature.” I enjoyed reading “To Kill a Mockingbird,” which is a well-known piece of literature. If the author does not think that this is good literature, then I would also like to know what is.

October 29, 2007 6:20 pm
Jon-Michael P. on paragraph 17:

Interesting point. By reading the first few sentences, we could have assumed that the author of the text was a poorly educated, lazy, ill-informed mother who needed something to complain about. Like Amberly said, if she would have established her credibility early on, I might have taken the passage more seriously.

October 29, 2007 5:03 pm
Drew on paragraph 4:

That’s a really interesting point. Would we rather our universities reach far into a limited number of topics and literature (complexity) or do we want them cover a huge amount of diverse topics but only teach them with limited depth (diversity)? I would choose “complexity” because digging deep into several ideas would provide a mold for us to do the same with other topics in the real world.

October 29, 2007 5:26 pm
Drew on paragraph 2:

I disagree with the author when she says that the reason for the literature selection for classes are poor because of the writings the adults in charge were exposed to. I personally don’t think that the selection is “poor,” but any struggle its experiencing is more likely coming from the stress that is put on it by the curriculums teachers are forced to measure up to and other pointless [stupid] obstacles, such as the avoidance of a lawsuit or offending someone.

October 29, 2007 5:36 pm
Elizabeth C. on paragraph 7:

Like Clare said, the author exaggerates when comparing FBI files to the reading lists. She makes it seem like obtaining the reading lists is just as difficult as getting FBI surveillance files when it really is not.

October 29, 2007 6:35 pm
Elizabeth C. on paragraph 17:

Before the author established her ethos I was not able to understand her point. Throughout the passage it seemed like she was just an informed mother complaining about what her child was being taught. Now that I know she is a teacher of college undergraduates, I understand the point she is trying to make in the passage.

October 29, 2007 6:44 pm
Elizabeth C. on paragraph 13:

In this paragraph, the author’s strong vocabulary is obvious. Words that she used such as “paradigm” and “felicitously” left me thinking that the writer could be well-educated.

October 29, 2007 6:49 pm
Megan H. on paragraph 1:

I agree with the author’s stance that our society has turned away from Dante and Homer. My classes always groan when they hear we are going to read a “great peice of classic literature.” We must study these peices of work in order to understand the history of writing and the history of people, but I believe that modern works should be studied just the same. We need to understand the society we live in today and our own language and our own patterns of speech. Maybe Montel just isn’t the literary genius we should refer to.

October 29, 2007 6:49 pm
Daniel R. on paragraph 1:

Firstly, summertime channel surfing tells me that Montel and Lake are pretty lame talk show hosts — which fits the paragraph quite well.

I do agree with the author though. Our reading list, among over things in school, are being diluted. While I, and others in our class, are familiar with the works of Dante (light reading, anyone?) and Homer (not Simpson) I find it highly unlikely that a majority of our class could identify them. I mean, really, how many of them can locate Spain on a map? (not elitist, just an example).

October 29, 2007 6:57 pm
Elizabeth C. on paragraph 4:

Good point Drew! In my opinion, we should not be limited to the number of topics that we can study, but should be able to study a diverse number of topics. I know that I would quickly lose interest if we were limited to certain topics instead of learning about something new all the time.

October 29, 2007 6:57 pm
Megan H. on paragraph 6:

I think that the author speak too strongly against Angelou. She claims that Munro can explain to us what it is that “makes adolescence a hell.” Do we not already know what makes adolescence a hell? Granted, seeing the awfulness of adolescence through someone else’s eyes might just give us a different insight into our own experiences that helps us to understand the experience more thoroughly. But Angelou stands for an entire culture within a culture. Don’t we need to understand the thoughts and lives of others, not just our own.

October 29, 2007 6:59 pm
Megan H. on paragraph 8:

These books are chosen over and over every where. Every single school in the country is not going to force students to read worthless works of literature. Do Shakespeare’s plays not mirror life? We all experience some of the drama, the saddness, and the humor included in the plays.

October 29, 2007 7:03 pm
Audrey on paragraph 1:

I also disagree with the author. If I do not know who Montel Williams and Ricki Lake are, how can I relate to what the author is trying to say?

October 29, 2007 7:03 pm
Daniel R. on paragraph 17:

Well then, we’ve seen that you cannot judge a book by its first 16 paragraphs.

So, here’s a concerned graduate professor (English) about her students reading, or lack thereof. Her main concern is one that I’ve heard from many people about the reading of students — it (normally) sucks. And according to her, No Spin Zone, regardless of your politics, doesn’t count as a work of literary genious.

October 29, 2007 7:06 pm
Daniel R. on paragraph 16:

Througout the essay, the author has driven home her point of students’ reading. By implementing the strategies, she argues and I agree, we (the students) can adapt to use these strategies and thus improve both the depth and complexity of our writing. It all stems from that readin’ thingy…

October 29, 2007 7:09 pm
Megan H. on paragraph 16:

I agree with Shea and JM. We will, whether we mean to or not, learn from these writers. They use devices in their books that we can transpose into our own writing to improve a future generations literary contributions. These books teach us the patterns our society follows and scenarios that will most likely be repeated. Gatsby presents an idea of an American Dream which still exists very much today. We must understand ideas like this one.

October 29, 2007 7:09 pm
Megan H. on paragraph 17:

Repeating the word “how” exemplifies the author’s opinion that the students of America are in danger of illiteracy and, in turn, the opinion that this paradigm of illiteracy is crippling the literary world of our country.

I agree that the author finally establishing her ethos is crucial to my examination of her argument.

October 29, 2007 7:14 pm
Audrey on paragraph 6:

Good point Megan. Even though we may already know what “makes adolescence a hell,” it is good to know and understand what others are going through and not just be stuck on ourselves.

October 29, 2007 7:15 pm
Daniel R. on paragraph 9:

JM:

Great literature is in the eyes of the beholder. For example, Preston could find War and Peace a delightful and quick read while the rest of the world with a heartbeat would find it a repugnant Russian dread. However, I am a huge fan of Atticus Finch personally but I cannot speak for Angelou’s work myself.

October 29, 2007 7:19 pm
Courtney B. on paragraph 1:

I have to say that I agree with both Jon-Michael and Meagan. Like Jon-Michael, I don’t really want to read a book that haven’t the interest for and would rather read something that fuels my entertainment side. However I do think that students shouldn’t be catered to, they should have a taste for the classics (although I’m not sure Dane and Homer are the ideal choices) that is where the teacher-and students with an interest-should try to advance the subject with an ‘in’ approach.

October 29, 2007 7:37 pm
Courtney B. on paragraph 2:

One of the problems I have with this paragraph is the authors’ clear negative tones to the books she selected; like Gone with the Wind. (I am not drawn to this book personally, but I have read it before and it does have a few worthy elements. There must be a reason why it has been passed down and still is on the bestseller list.) I also agree with Drew, I don’t think that the poor choices that students make considering literature can be pinned on the adults only. Instead of whining about the problem I think that the author should try to face the issue instead of condemning it. Besides, maybe she could be lumped into the same category she is accusing.

October 29, 2007 7:52 pm
Audrey on paragraph 12:

In my opinion, the author needs to widen her perspective of other books. Just because books such as “To Kill a Mockingbird” and “I know why the Caged Bird Sings”—which were both set in the South—aren’t really her New York style, doesn’t mean she should feel so disstrongly about them.

October 29, 2007 7:57 pm
Courtney B. on paragraph 3:

I agree with Drew 100%! Although I would like to know what the author perceives as ‘worthy’ literature (yes I know she prefers Dante and Homer over Stephanie Meyer – Sorry Kendra – but I think that the value of the literature’s art is an opinion. Isn’t art just another way to view something? So who’s to say that all pieces of literature are ‘trash’ if they don’t fall under the category of the greats.

October 29, 2007 8:00 pm
Courtney B. on paragraph 4:

Although I agree with Drew slightly, I have to say that Elizabeth’s point doesn’t’ really address the issue the author was making. She is saying that universities are sacrificing complexity for diversity, when we should really be turning to complexity. With this I would say I kind of have to agree. Though diversity is important I think that universities (and high schools for that matter) are more interested in giving students a broad experience, rather than teaching them how to delve into the complexities of English literature.

October 29, 2007 8:08 pm
Audrey on paragraph 16:

I agree Megan, JM, and Shea. Great works of literature such as “The Great Gatsby” and “The Scarlet Letter” help us, as students; learn from the literary techniques used in their books. They also, as Megan said earlier, teach us the patterns our society follows that may be repeated. There is the possibility, however, that through these books, we see the mistakes that have been made in the past so that we might be able to prevent them in the future.

October 29, 2007 8:13 pm
Lizzie W on paragraph 2:

When texts such as Dante and Homer are introduced into a classroom, students usually dread the excruciating and seemingly torturous assignment that lies ahead. It’s almost like trying to solve a puzzle with lots of missing pieces. Even though these works are “classics” and a vital part of the history of literature, we shouldn’t emphasize them so much. I agree with Megan, modern works should be studied just the same. Amberly also makes a good point, teachers have put less of an emphasis on these “pieces of classic literature,” because they don’t want to steer the students away from reading in general. If the students get a bad impression early on, they will eventually lose their aspiration to read at all, and isn’t that defeating the purpose?

October 29, 2007 8:13 pm
Audrey on paragraph 17:

I agree Amberly. If only she had stated this earlier then maybe we could have understood her argument a little better.

October 29, 2007 8:16 pm
Lizzie W on paragraph 12:

I agree with Clare. The southern dialect is crucial to the storys setting, and reflects no lack of ability on the authors part. In my opinion, the fact that they were able to weave in the dialect to create the setting and overall feel of the book makes them good writers. Eventhough being from New York she may not understand the dialect, she needs to look a little depper.

October 29, 2007 8:34 pm
Kaitlin W on paragraph 1:

I agree with many of the things my classmates have said. I have heard of Williams and Lake, but I really know nothing about them other than the fact that they are talk show hosts. I am familiar with works by Homer and Dante. The problem is that when you tell a student to read a certain book by a certain time, they lose interest. If we were allowed to pick the certain literature, more people would read for school.

October 30, 2007 6:20 am
Kaitlin W on paragraph 6:

Amberly, I agree with you. The author talks harshly about authors we have all heard of. And I agree with Megan. The author speaks very stongly against Maya Angelou. Though we tend to not like to read certain works by Angelou, some of her works are very full of feeling. They teach us the many struggles she went through in her life. Shouldn’t we learn about the struggles that others went through?

October 30, 2007 6:33 am
Kaitlin W on paragraph 8:

In the past few years of school, we have read a play by Shakespeare in my english classes every year. The plays we read, however, actually do relate to real life events that we are going through now. “Romeo and Juliet”, for instance, was a play about to people who were in love, but their parents did not agree with their feelings. Throughout reading “A Midsummer Night’s Dream,” I continually found myself imagining real life events that were just like the ones in the play.

October 30, 2007 6:48 am
Kaitlin W on paragraph 9:

“Good literature” is obviously very different for each person. I liked “To Kill A Mockingbird” as well as many of my classmates. But the author thinks that it is a poor work. All I can think to say from this is “to each his own.”

October 30, 2007 6:55 am
Lizzie W on paragraph 17:

This goes to show how essential establishing ethos can be for your argument. Like Amberly said, I think I wouldn’t have been so quick to criticize and more understanding if I had known early on she was a college professor.

October 30, 2007 6:57 am
Kaitlin W on paragraph 17:

Before I read that she was a college professor, I didn’t think much of this passage. I figured, like many others, that she was just a mother who wanted to complain about her child’s English education. I feel that she is judging everyone by just how some students are. I know of many who will read a book that is on a list of “required books” just for fun. Though when they read these they do tend to take longer, they might read them for fun.

October 30, 2007 7:01 am
Lizzie W on paragraph 16:

History tends to repeat itself. Knowing this, it is important to study these works from the past. We learn from them without even conscientiously meaning to. These books are filled with literary devices and rhetoric. It is important for us to be able to recognize all these techniques and use them in our own writing. These books are so “common” because they are all valuable tools.

October 30, 2007 7:33 am
Amy C. on paragraph 1:

I sort of disagree with Amberly. Although students do enjoy reading when if’s actually what they want to read and there isn’t an assignment out of it, those great works do not have to be intimidating. The way many teachers express them does tend to be this way, but that is not how they should be taught. Students usually do not understand everything involved in great works of literature which, of course, causes them to be turned off. If they were to understand them, I think some may no longer enjoy the novels they now read because many of those novels lack any rhetorical devices.

October 31, 2007 4:01 pm
Amy C. on paragraph 2:

I also agree with Drew that the selection is not poor. Many teachers have so much stress put on them by curriculums not to mention students themselves. She seems to blame teachers in high school but they usually aren’t the one making the lists of what students should have to read. I agree that the author needs to go to where the problem is and try to fix it rather than pinning the blame on others and expecting them to fix it.

October 31, 2007 4:11 pm
Amy C. on paragraph 6:

The author just got done bashing other books that she seems to deam unworthy or poor works of literature. Now she’s promoting books that she enjoys-that she believes worthy. Isn’t that just what she was blaming others of doing? She doesn’t really seem to want to help anything, but instead conform everyone to her views and ways of thinking.

October 31, 2007 4:17 pm
Amy C. on paragraph 9:

I agree with Amberly. It seems to me that the only books she would allow in public schools would be those she enjoys. I am incredibly happy that she has no say. She obviously has never heard of Kaitlin’s quote, “to each his own”.

October 31, 2007 4:25 pm
G. Chesney on paragraph 1:

In first paragraph the author is trying to establish that the reading patterns of America are established by the policies of the classroom. As an AP student though I believe I am not in the place to say that America’s literary skills are going down the tubes. What I do know is that Americans today are purchasing more books than ever and therefore they must be reading more books than ever. Prose though is not making a claim that the volume has gone down but instead the quality. She states that classrooms are abandoning Dante and Homer for more contemporary authors. This I believe can be clearly seen in the books on the New York Times best sellers list. No in days it seems as if all you need is Oprah’s approval and your set.

October 31, 2007 6:54 pm
G. Chesney on paragraph 2:

Prose is using examples of novels that have survived not because they are great novels, but because they were read by the current generation when they were in high school. This supports her theory in paragraph one that it is what we make high school students read will become their literary preference.

October 31, 2007 7:00 pm
Kendra K. on paragraph 5:

The author shows a sort of sarcasm in this paragraph. She is really tart when she speaks of Maya Angelou’s “manipulative melodramas”. I do understand what she is talking about, though, when she talks about her son having to read and discuss books that are “weak” and the “fantasies” of others.

October 31, 2007 7:21 pm
Kendra K. on paragraph 6:

Amy, I totally agree with you. The author is also sort of condescending. She is kind of saying that she could pick out books for us to read better than anyone else. But I also agree with Megan and Amberly.

October 31, 2007 7:25 pm
Kendra K. on paragraph 7:

Once again does anyone else see how this paragraph (along with many others) practically screams “SARCASM”! The whole “FBI” thing is funny too because I can just practically see a few of our teachers getting all FBI on someone trying to see their “reading lists”.

October 31, 2007 7:29 pm
Kendra K. on paragraph 8:

When teachers who are in Washington and teachers who are in Arkansas, who have probably never met each other, are telling their kids to read the same books then there has to be a factor in there somewhere that tells them that these books are good. Or if their not good then that they are on the reading level the average student should be reading.

October 31, 2007 7:34 pm
G. Chesney on paragraph 3:

I agree, using data which I had stated in an earlier post prose states that Americans are buying more books than ever but not of the high culture variety. Prose is suggesting that by teaching classics we can boost America’s literary skills. We can bring back anaphora. We can bring back hyperbole. We can bring back antithesis. We can bring back antimetabole. We can bring back literature to America.

October 31, 2007 7:42 pm
G. Chesney on paragraph 4:

Prose is saying this is not a new problem and it has been going on for a while. That actual learning has been sacrificed to appease people. Drew I also choose in depth learning over diversity. It’s like fishing. Fish the shallower water and you might catch more fish, but if you want to catch that big fish you got to go deep.

October 31, 2007 7:58 pm
G. Chesney on paragraph 11:

Prose is describing the typical American teacher who is so zealous that he or she wants all the students to participate in discussion. So by choosing a book such as I Know Why the Cage Bird Sings a teacher is able to involve all of her students in discussion. But by doing this a teacher is denying students exposure to the classics and maybe a true literary taste. So it is not necessarily how but what book is being taught. Because “digging deeper” has not been taught in the past 20 years or so modern literature is a storyline with bland style. In order to bring back style we have to bring back the classics.

October 31, 2007 8:14 pm
R. JAHAN on paragraph 3:

I also believe that a better understanding of literature and the basis for modern works lies in the classics. However dull reading these works may seem, they are undeniably essential in a schools curriculum. Prose does make a strong point (even if it is a bit radical) on how strong literary works “exercise” the mind no matter how enjoyable modern works are. What I do believe is that reading is very essential, but not if it is limited. To expand the mind it is best to expand your literary domain.

October 31, 2007 10:19 pm
R. JAHAN on paragraph 4:

I can see how America’s level of cultural literacy is being endangered, but to blame the work of universities is out of place. Sure some diversity has blinded us of the actual meaning of certain topics, but nonetheless these programs are still succeeding. Drew made an important point on how examining a particular topic closely will make other topics more clear. Very efficient.

October 31, 2007 10:59 pm
R. JAHAN on paragraph 6:

Some students may tend to automatically “write-off” classical works as ineffective because of a so-called vagueness or ambiguity in the language (which comes from a lack of strong reading habits). However, these novels hold much more truth than today’s novels and offer a great amount of social commentary. The classics have lasted through out the ages because of their ability to relate to the evolving generations struggles. The example of The Metamorphosis was very effective and captured the author’s idea clearly by showing how the purpose that modern works serve in the classroom can be achieved to a greater extent by classics.

October 31, 2007 11:12 pm
Daniel R. on paragraph 2:

I agree with Rasheeq. Many students, including myself, do not read the ‘classics’ becuase of their archaic language — which is hard to read becuase we do not read it enough. Prose proves this point by using The Metamorphosis.

November 1, 2007 7:44 am
Preston on paragraph 1:

That’s purely anecdotal, Amy, Jon Michael. One needs only to peruse the T.V. rating charts to confirm the author’s claim.

November 1, 2007 10:04 am
Preston on paragraph 2:

Certainly. There seems to be a list of books that everyone agrees upon as being the greatest books and the ones assumed to be taught in school. Rarely will an average person tell you why such books merit such distinction.

November 1, 2007 10:08 am
Preston on paragraph 3:

There are good works representing a variety of viewpoints equal to the variety of views represented in poor works. The issue is not a matter of viewpoint or any nonsense like “artistic vision,” but quality of writing, which can be firmly established.

November 1, 2007 10:14 am
Preston on paragraph 5:

I agree with the author here. The vast majority of books I recall reading in my schooling have been of a dreary nature, very laborious to read (not because it’s complex writing, just poor writing).

November 1, 2007 10:20 am
Preston on paragraph 11:

Prose’s view on the typical teacher is cynical, though perhaps accurate. It meets my experience to some degree.

“Ludicrous” goes a bit far, Jon Michael. You can’t expect someone to draw out advanced literary techniques from a work in which they are poorly done or not done at all.

November 1, 2007 10:31 am
Will R. on paragraph 1:

This lady has some major issues. I agree that our educational system is not what it used to be, but times change. Of corse teens are going to want to watch Montel Williams and Ricki Lake or any other talk show host for that matter, because they deal with current issues that they deal with each day not something that happened before Jesus was even born.

November 1, 2007 11:04 am
Tory T on paragraph 1:

I agree with the author. Teenagers today are more concerned with their appearance or other things than what kind of books they read and their education. When they read they pick books that they can relate to. Classic books of Donte and Homer are far from something that they can relate to. This is because teenagers cannot understand these types of books. Also, if they are told to read a certain book in a certain length of time they automatically lose interest.

November 1, 2007 11:08 am
Tory T on paragraph 2:

I believe that we should have equal study of the classic books and the books of today. The reason behind this point is if students had to read all classic books they would stressed and not cooperative in reading the book. When you allow students to read both classic and today’s books they are not being “steered away” as
Amberly stated “from reading in general”.

November 1, 2007 11:20 am
Will R. on paragraph 3:

I agree with Prose in the third paragraph in the respect that teachers should work to instill an enduring “affinity” for books that are considered “AP”, but this comes slowly over time. It is a maturing process that occurs over time. There aren’t going to be very many teens willing to read “A Tale of Two Cities”, but if they read texts suitable to their grade level then they are less likely to be turned off by the thought of reading later in life when their reading comprehension is more mature.

November 1, 2007 11:31 am
Drew D on paragraph 1:

I disagree with the author’s claim that literature classes are taught with dreariness. At least from my experience, my teachers have all been passionate (and knowledgable) about the subject.

November 1, 2007 12:26 pm
Drew D on paragraph 8:

Not only are the points that Clare, Megan, and Kendra made (about the constant selection of the book) true, I think that it helps to be uniform in our reading material. Then, through the internet and blogging and other tools, students like us can see the ways that “geography,” “region,” and “community size” affects the interpretation of the literature.

November 1, 2007 12:31 pm
Tory T on paragraph 3:

Yes, better literature in high school would improve Americas literacy rate, but without willing students this would go nowhere. To create willing students you have to mix the books of today with the classic books.

November 1, 2007 6:13 pm
Will R. on paragraph 11:

One cannot simply say because the book is easily discussed does not mean that the teacher is lazy. Like others have said in this discussion the teacher is trying to allow the students to get a better grasp on their reading analysis by giving them books that deal with topic they are familiar with.

November 2, 2007 11:14 am
Will R. on paragraph 7:

I agree Kendra. She used this exaggeration to place more emphasis on the amount of work and effort she feels the teachers refuse to sacrifice to better a teen’s understanding of rhetorical devices.

November 2, 2007 11:32 am
Jay on paragraph 1:

If we have managed to secure teachers that teach English well and with enthusiasm, we should count ourselves as extremely lucky. In my experience of having gone to more than one school, I completely agree with the author that literature is taught in an extremely dreary manner for the most part. If we aren’t lucky enough to get into AP English, we are usually taught capitalization, punctuation, and sentence structure almost exclusively as the most important aspect of English. While these things are necessary for a good base to explore literature, they do not serve as a substitute for good literature–which is more or less the main point of English class.

As for the majority of arguments that disagree with the author’s point, the author is not saying that our teenagers admire Montel and Lake, but rather, our society. It’s a way of saying that people admire t.v. hosts and Oprah-like figures more than skillful authors who have purpose in their writing. Which is completely true. What percentage of people do you think wants to hear Oprah’s opinion verses Dante’s? Chances are, a large percentage might vaguely recognize Dante’s name, but probably from a video game and not the wonderful poet and author that he was.

November 3, 2007 9:56 pm
Jay on paragraph 4:

I have to disagree with Rasheeq. How are these programs still succeeding when our scholastic standards are plummeting and the average reading level is eighth grade? That doesn’t sound like success to me.

We must also take notice of her extreme language here. Her tone of absolute disgust stands to illustrate perhaps a hint of sarcasm. Her word choice of ‘lemminglike’ fervor is an excellent analogy of sacrificing complexity for diversity, for it has been a long-standing myth that lemmings commit mass-suicide.

November 3, 2007 10:11 pm
Jay on paragraph 9:

The point that good literature is in the eye of the beholder would go back to her previous statements that what we read as young people impacted our perception of what good literature is.

Her point is not that people should not have their own personal tastes, but rather, that people are not having their own personal taste because these “classics” are kept on reading lists year after year. If we are all so worried about “to each their own” then why aren’t other books integrated with these “classics” in the same manner? Where is the complexity?

November 3, 2007 10:18 pm
Jay on paragraph 16:

In relation to the book, Night, I will say that I immensely enjoyed the book for its story. But Prose is right in the fact that it was not a literary piece of art. The only reason that book is as popular as it is is because Oprah marked her stamp of approval upon it.

November 3, 2007 10:23 pm
Jay on paragraph 17:

I think her credibility was established far before this paragraph. Her rhetoric was not that of a concerned mother. Her sarcasm and wit seemed to be missed by most and her points misunderstood, I feel.

November 3, 2007 10:29 pm
Halli on paragraph 1:

Wow, I can already say that I disagree with what the author is saying. I happen to like reading the classic novels, and have read a few of them. And I don’t think that just because the book is a classic novel that it shouldn’t be considered a good piece of literature.

November 8, 2007 6:22 pm
Madison N on paragraph 1:

I agree with what most of the class is saying- I disagree with the author. Like so many readers of classic novels who have commented previously, I have never heard of Lake or Williams. So does this mean I am not reading quality literature? No. It means that I am just reading other classic authors, and am not always plugged in to Montel. This author needs to look at the big picture and realize that even though students live in a new society they are still reading old literature.

November 14, 2007 10:01 pm
Madison N on paragraph 2:

Honestly, I think that teacher and student are both at fault and Prose is too quick to judge. Teachers do tend to assign the easiest classic novels, in hopes that the students will actually do the work. Students, however, hear the word “classic” and automatically think “oh crap, King James Version language.” With these two thoughts, both are at fault and nothing gets learned.

November 14, 2007 10:11 pm
Madison N on paragraph 4:

I agree with Grant, in saying that to get a deeper knowledge we must dig deeper into the text. Some schools only require a light explanation of the novels and don’t force the students to dig deeper. Personally, I would much rather learn the literature to the core and have a vast knowledge of it all.

November 14, 2007 10:22 pm
Madison N on paragraph 9:

Whose opinion is it what is good literature and what is not? The reader of course! However, is it every reader’s job to bash every author they don’t appreciate? I don’t think so. Prose was very critical of some of my favorite writers and seemed to think that their writing was inappropriate and illogical. Seeing as most of the writers she was bashing have won numerous awards for their work, I would like to know what she sees as good literature.

November 14, 2007 10:29 pm
Madison N on paragraph 17:

I agree with everyone on their stance about the author’s use of ethos. If she had stated from the very beginning that she was a highly accredited college english professor, I might have cared more about what she had to say. I also might have tried to look deeper into what she was saying and accept some of her views.

November 14, 2007 10:49 pm

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May 1, 2008 10:54 am
Bobby Z on paragraph 1:

I don’t believe that many readers are making the true connection between what the author is saying. The purpose of exemplifying Montel and Ricki is to portray how common nature for many human beings in today’s society is to learn through television rather than books.

October 27, 2008 7:23 pm
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